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Latchkey kids for most of their lives, students entering college this fall think nothing of arriving home with parents still at work, then e-mailing or texting their friends, instantly updating their autobiographies on “Facebook” or “MySpace,” and listening to their iPods while doing their research on Wikipedia. They’ve grown up with Rush Limbaugh urging his fellow Dittoheads to excoriate liberals, with having been taught by an equal number of women and men in the classroom, and with
women having been hired as police chiefs of major cities.

Food has always been a health concern. Consumer awareness about ingredients and fats has always been energized. They’ve never “rolled down” a car window, and to them Jack Nicholson is mainly known as the guy who played “The Joker.”

As usual, they remind their elders how quickly time has passed. For them Pete Rose has never been in baseball. Abbie Hoffman’s always been dead. Johnny Carson has never been live on TV, and Nelson Mandela has always been free.

As for the Berlin Wall, what’s that?



THE BELOIT COLLEGE MINDSET LIST FOR THE CLASS OF 2011

Most of the students entering College this fall, members of the Class of 2011, were born in 1989. For them, Alvin Ailey, Andrei Sakharov, Huey Newton, Emperor Hirohito, Ted Bundy, Abbie Hoffman, and Don the Beachcomber have always been dead.

1. What Berlin wall? .
2. Humvees, minus the artillery, have always been available to the public.
3. Rush Limbaugh and the “Dittoheads” have always been lambasting liberals.
4. They never “rolled down” a car window.
5. Michael Moore has always been angry and funny.
6. They may confuse the Keating Five with a rock group.
7. They have grown up with bottled water.
8. General Motors has always been working on an electric car.
9. Nelson Mandela has always been free and a force in South Africa.
10. Pete Rose has never played baseball.
11. Rap music has always been mainstream.
12. Religious leaders have always been telling politicians what to do, or else!
13. “Off the hook” has never had anything to do with a telephone.
14. Music has always been “unplugged.”
15. Russia has always had a multi-party political system.
16. Women have always been police chiefs in major cities.
17. They were born the year Harvard Law Review Editor Barack Obama announced he might run for office some day.
18. The NBA season has always gone on and on and on and on.
19. Classmates could include Michelle Wie, Jordin Sparks, and Bart Simpson.
20. Half of them may have been members of the Baby-sitters Club.
21. Eastern Airlines has never “earned their wings” in their lifetime.
22. No one has ever been able to sit down comfortably to a meal of “liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.”
23. Wal-Mart has always been a larger retailer than Sears and has always employed more workers than GM.
24. Being “lame” has to do with being dumb or inarticulate, not disabled.
25. Wolf Blitzer has always been serving up the news on CNN.
26. Katie Couric has always had screen cred.
27. Al Gore has always been running for president or thinking about it.
28. They never found a prize in a Coca-Cola “MagiCan.”
29. They were too young to understand Judas Priest’s subliminal messages.
30. When all else fails, the Prozac defense has always been a possibility.
31. Multigrain chips have always provided healthful junk food.
32. They grew up in Wayne’s World.
33. U2 has always been more than a spy plane.
34. They were introduced to Jack Nicholson as “The Joker.”
35. Stadiums, rock tours and sporting events have always had corporate names.
36. American rock groups have always appeared in Moscow.
37. Commercial product placements have been the norm in films and on TV.
38. On Parents’ Day on campus, their folks could be mixing it up with Lisa Bonet and Lenny Kravitz with daughter Zöe, or Kathie Lee and Frank Gifford with son Cody.
39. Fox has always been a major network.
40. They drove their parents crazy with the Beavis and Butt-head laugh.
41. The “Blue Man Group” has always been everywhere.
42. Women’s studies majors have always been offered on campus.
43. Being a latchkey kid has never been a big deal.
44. Thanks to MySpace and Facebook, autobiography can happen in real time.
45. They learned about JFK from Oliver Stone and Malcolm X from Spike Lee.
46. Most phone calls have never been private.
47. High definition television has always been available.
48. Microbreweries have always been ubiquitous.
49. Virtual reality has always been available when the real thing failed.
50. Smoking has never been allowed in public spaces in France.
51. China has always been more interested in making money than in reeducation.
52. Time has always worked with Warner.
53. Tiananmen Square is a 2008 Olympics venue, not the scene of a massacre.
54. The purchase of ivory has always been banned.
55. MTV has never featured music videos.
56. The space program has never really caught their attention except in disasters.
57. Jerry Springer has always been lowering the level of discourse on TV.
58. They get much more information from Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert than from the newspaper.
59. They’re always texting 1 n other.
60. They will encounter roughly equal numbers of female and male professors in the classroom.
61. They never saw Johnny Carson live on television.
62. They have no idea who Rusty Jones was or why he said “goodbye to rusty cars.”
63. Avatars have nothing to do with Hindu deities.
64. Chavez has nothing to do with iceberg lettuce and everything to do with oil.
65. Illinois has been trying to ban smoking since the year they were born.
66. The World Wide Web has been an online tool since they were born.
67. Chronic fatigue syndrome has always been debilitating and controversial.
68. Burma has always been Myanmar.
69 Dilbert has always been ridiculing cubicle culture.
70. Food packaging has always included nutritional labeling.

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Date: 2007-08-21 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dirkcjelli.livejournal.com
so, you're saying, they're martians...

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Date: 2007-08-21 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etherial.livejournal.com
1, 8, 23, 38, and 55 blow my mind.

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Date: 2007-08-21 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pezzonovante.livejournal.com
53 breaks my head, personally.

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Date: 2007-08-21 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bonisagus.livejournal.com
Ick...I was a sophomore in high school when these babies were born.

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Date: 2007-08-21 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etherial.livejournal.com
I was already paying attention to national politics.

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Date: 2007-08-22 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zonereyrie.livejournal.com
I was a college freshman when these freshmen were born. ;-)

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Date: 2007-08-21 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddrpolaris.livejournal.com
I think a good portion of these were true for me too... although I do remember the Bush 41 inauguration. I think some of these things are off or wrong though, Bart Simpson is older than me by at least 4 years...

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Date: 2007-08-21 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etherial.livejournal.com
These aren't necessarily brand new revelations, just the 70 most shocking ones. Bart has been in the fourth grade since 1987. His official birthdate is 4/1/80.

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Date: 2007-08-21 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dirkcjelli.livejournal.com
(they mean the show is as old as children born in 1989)

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Date: 2007-08-21 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anitra.livejournal.com
Most of these apply to me, though I am 7 years older. Guess it's a result of my sheltered childhood and forward-thinking parents (re: womens rights, health, technology).

Mention of Nelson Mandela always brings me back to eighth grade (1994), when some classmates and I were flipping around on the radio and came upon some Rastafarian-like music saying "freeeeeee Nelson Mandela". The other guys laughed. I was confused. I was just getting to the point where I could follow national news, and international news (for me) was limited to countries my parents had friends in - China, Japan, and some of Europe.

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Date: 2007-08-21 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juldea.livejournal.com
I grew up with Rush Limbaugh and his Dittoheads insulting liberals.

Yup.

Date: 2007-08-21 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etherial.livejournal.com
Nationally syndicated since 4/1988. It's not just that they grew up with him. It's that, in their entire lifetime, he's never been off the air.

Re: Yup.

Date: 2007-08-21 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juldea.livejournal.com
Okay, that is a different phrasing and more boggling.

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Date: 2007-08-21 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bonisagus.livejournal.com
Morton Downey Jr.

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Date: 2007-08-21 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kadath.livejournal.com
I think I'm oblivious. These lists never shock me.

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Date: 2007-08-21 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nightskyre.livejournal.com
Nor I. Then again, now that I'm working in a mall again, I have a much bleaker outlook on humanity.

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Date: 2007-08-21 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benndragon.livejournal.com
Uh, I'm still "rolling down" my car window. As in, the car I currently drive does not have automatic windows and it was made after these kids were born. Is Beloit full of sufficiently rich kids that their parents would never own a car with manual windows after their birth?

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Date: 2007-08-21 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etherial.livejournal.com
They have a pool of professionals that submit suggestions. It's possible their fact-checking ain't so great. I mean, I have a friend whose 2004 Kia Rio has rolldown windows. But that car costs $3000 new.

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Date: 2007-08-21 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadasc.livejournal.com
These lists get more and more lame each year. I want to see the list of "The people compiling this year's Beloit College list were born in 19XX. These are the things that shaped their prejudices about what the generation gap is..."

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Date: 2007-08-21 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qedrakmar.livejournal.com
ooooh... I like that suggestion.

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Date: 2007-08-21 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anitra.livejournal.com
Totally agree with you on that one. If your list can apply to anyone from 12 to 25, is it really useful to say "this is true of (almost) all college freshmen"?

They used to be better; even at the age of 21, I could read one and see the differences between myself and a typical 18-year-old freshman.

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Date: 2007-08-21 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marmota.livejournal.com
For them, D&D has always been a computer game. ;)

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Date: 2007-08-21 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] invader-haywire.livejournal.com
Actually, I am 36 and I knew it as a video game before the RPG... on an Intellivision!

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Date: 2007-08-21 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosinavs.livejournal.com
If nothing else, these lists are useful for me, even if they aren't necessarily exceedingly accurate. To be honest, one could include things on this list that existed as late as 1994, and most people born in 1989 would have been unconscious of them.

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Date: 2007-08-21 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hfcougar.livejournal.com
For the same reason, a small number of things on the list apply even to me, since I was pretty oblivious as a child. Plus, U2 has been around a pretty long time, and Al Gore has always been running for President. Possibly even in the womb.

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Date: 2007-08-21 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hfcougar.livejournal.com
Not on the list, but the one that makes me feel old is that they hadn't even started kindergarten yet when Kurt Cobain died.

I too would like to see the demographics of who's making the list and what their pivotal events and generation gap prejudices are. Some of the list hits home for me, some of it applies to me, and some of it just makes me go "huh?"

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Date: 2007-08-22 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kgola.livejournal.com
I was only born 4 years before these people, which means I graduated high school when they "graduated" 8th grade (if they went to K-8 schools like I did). So I'm not that far ahead of them, and I really feel like this list has a couple that are a bit out there...

For instance, number 4 - I so totally rolled down my car windows all the time - up until this latest car, in fact... Maybe the car immediately before it to, but definitely until I was in high school I was rolling down windows...

13. We've got a rotary phone in my basement!

55. MTV had music videos when I was younger... I think... I remember watching them on there, anyway...

56. The space program has always caught my attention, but I'm a space geek...

I'm just saying...

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Date: 2007-08-22 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doozer4200.livejournal.com

Hurrah for number 60! [although far fewer of the women have tenure, or even full-time employment--adjuncts are disproportionately female]

It's actually the class of 2012-- the class born in 1990-- that I've been awaiting with trepidation. But, since 1989 was a rather significant year, this class blows my mind pretty well, too.

Facing my first year as a "real" faculty member with only 11 years or so on the traditional first years [my school has many older students] is daunting. On the one hand, I can relate. On the other hand, 10 years is a lot-- they were in grade school when I was in college. I don't remember Carter, but I do remember Reagan. Quite a lot of Reagan, unfortunately.

I think that it's not just birth year that makes a difference--it's how much you talk with your parents, how old THEY are, how much THEY remember, and how much you are interested in current events and the cultural zeitgeist. There's a sort of carry over effect. Like, even though I wasn't alive for Watergate, Nixon jokes were still very much a part of popular culture when I was growing up; in classes I have TA-ed for, NO ONE LAUGHED at the professor's Nixon jokes, but I did.