A while back, I made a post comparing people who solicit for designer donor eggs to Nazis. As always, art and humor can never find ways to be as awful as real life. Lookie what we have here from Sunday.
So are people who look for those specifications in their love life Nazis as well?
Eugenics may be tainted by its association with Nazism and racial purity, but I don't see anything wrong with voluntarily selecting for desirable traits. When does (non-coercive) eugenics become bad? Selecting out diseases with in-vitro fertilization? For long life? For a fit body? For intelligence? So that the child will appear to be the natural child of the parents? For other aesthetic desires?
I understand that messing with evolution can be dangerous, and I understand that coercive eugenics is a pretty huge violation (though sometime in the future we may question the ethics of parents who do not select out deadly diseases), but condemning the science as "just evil" is failing to improve the quality-of-life of individuals and, potentially with time, society as a whole just because of bad memories that aren't directly related to the practice.
On the other hand....bah! Only 5k for eggs? I could get 8k! *wiggles Asian genes about* Now if only I didn't have a problem with, you know, seriously disruptive and invasive surgery for money.
Wait. I'm at work and don't have time to read through this thread, but are my friends actually arguing that if someday I want to have a kid and I want it to have brown hair and light eyes and light skin like me (and, if you want to go there, if this were londo and I trying to have a kid and we request a kid with light hair and light eyes and light skin tone, to be like a combination of us), I am a Nazi?
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Date: 2008-09-16 02:29 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2008-09-16 03:03 pm (UTC)Eugenics may be tainted by its association with Nazism and racial purity, but I don't see anything wrong with voluntarily selecting for desirable traits. When does (non-coercive) eugenics become bad? Selecting out diseases with in-vitro fertilization? For long life? For a fit body? For intelligence? So that the child will appear to be the natural child of the parents? For other aesthetic desires?
I understand that messing with evolution can be dangerous, and I understand that coercive eugenics is a pretty huge violation (though sometime in the future we may question the ethics of parents who do not select out deadly diseases), but condemning the science as "just evil" is failing to improve the quality-of-life of individuals and, potentially with time, society as a whole just because of bad memories that aren't directly related to the practice.
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From:You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means
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Date: 2008-09-16 03:07 pm (UTC)On the other hand....bah! Only 5k for eggs? I could get 8k! *wiggles Asian genes about* Now if only I didn't have a problem with, you know, seriously disruptive and invasive surgery for money.
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Date: 2008-09-16 03:49 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-09-16 07:54 pm (UTC)I want it to have brown hair, etc...I am a Nazi?
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From:Re: No, but I don't think that's the question or situation here.
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