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Some of you may have been aware that I was starting a new job today. It was to examine calculus problems for math textbooks and create example solutions and guided practice. Unfortunately, that job suffered a Death by NDA. The NDA included a Non-Competition Clause. Pro-Corporate-types consider this an attempt by the company to ensure that its employees don't quit and start up a competitor using the knowledge they gained in their job. Pro-Employee-types consider this an attempt to prevent people from being able to afford to quit their jobs. In general, I object to Non-Competition Clauses, but wouldn't have minded this one too much were it not for some of the language. Because I would be working on math textbooks, the Contract could prevent me from pursuing the manufacturers of these math textbooks for use in my classroom. As a matter of fact, the Contract could prevent me from even using these math textbooks for use in my classroom. When I brought my concerns to my would-be-supervisor's supervisor, he punted me out of the building.

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FLAWLESS VICTORY

Been there, done that. :/

Date: 2005-10-17 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marmota.livejournal.com
*nod* I've had all sorts of headaches over IP/NDA/NCCs. As a sysadmin, I've written various scripts and tools to make my job easier, and for about a decade I've been migrating them from job to job. They are GPL'ed, specifically to insure that no employer tries to claim them as their own. Not surprisingly, some of them have tried it anyway. "You wrote that here, it's ours." Like hell, I'm not reinventing the wheel for every job. "Anything you even think of writing here is ours". Again like hell, if the company does biotech research they have no claim on my palmos checkbook manager code. As you can imagine, I've had some knockdown drag out contract editing sessions with dullards in suits over this, fairly often resulting in job offers being retracted.

Re: Been there, done that. :/

Date: 2005-10-17 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etherial.livejournal.com
There was no mention of an NDA until after I was hired. I was only trying to negotiate two phrases out of the NCC, but they wouldn't hear it.

Re: Been there, done that. :/

Date: 2005-10-17 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aleksandyr.livejournal.com
I seem to remember that sort of trickery not being per se enforceable.

Re: Been there, done that. :/

Date: 2005-10-17 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aleksandyr.livejournal.com
That is to say that there have been NCAs overturned because of this. Not sure which state.

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